new mail stuff seems to be dead or at least hibernating for now

diff --git a/input/hardware-wishlist.creole b/input/hardware-wishlist.creole
index 562f2f2..8522fbe 100644 (file)
--- a/input/hardware-wishlist.creole
+++ b/input/hardware-wishlist.creole
@@ -36,32 +36,6 @@ Proposers:
 * ftpteam/Joerg Jaspert
 
 
-== new debian mail setup ==
-
-A set of systems that will handle all incoming mail for all debian systems.
-Currently our incoming mail handling is on the individual host hosting a
-service, i.e. on master.debian.org for @debian.org, on bugs.debian.org for the
-bug tracking system, on lists.debian.org for our mailinglists and on several
-other systems for their individual, smaller email traffic.
-
-Centralizing email handling will allow us to maintain our anti-spam measures in
-a single point, avoiding duplicate work and hopefully improving our success.
-
-Requirements:
-
-* Four or so systems, in at least two different locations, capable of handling
-  modern anti-spam software. This probably needs a bit of CPU.
-* remote management stuff
-
-Proposers:
-
-* Martin Zobel-Helas
-* Stephen Gran
-
-We probably have sufficient hardware for this. Current plan involves using one
-new box from HP, murphy, a new old sparc that zobel gets from some place, and
-puccini that will soon no longer have packages on it.
-
 == new bugs.d.o ==
 
 Currently bugs runs on a single DL385g1 system which cannot keep up with the
@@ -141,3 +115,44 @@ much spare space.
 We should be looking at replacing that eventually.  A raid6 of big SATA disks
 would probably provide the required robustness and be cost-effective.
 
+
+= Historical =
+
+These proposals probably are no longer relevant:
+
+== new debian mail setup ==
+
+A set of systems that will handle all incoming mail for all debian systems.
+Currently our incoming mail handling is on the individual host hosting a
+service, i.e. on master.debian.org for @debian.org, on bugs.debian.org for the
+bug tracking system, on lists.debian.org for our mailinglists and on several
+other systems for their individual, smaller email traffic.
+
+Centralizing email handling will allow us to maintain our anti-spam measures in
+a single point, avoiding duplicate work and hopefully improving our success.
+
+Requirements:
+
+* Four or so systems, in at least two different locations, capable of handling
+  modern anti-spam software. This probably needs a bit of CPU.
+* remote management stuff
+
+Proposers:
+
+* Martin Zobel-Helas
+* Stephen Gran
+
+We probably have sufficient hardware for this. Current plan involves using one
+new box from HP, murphy, a new old sparc that zobel gets from some place, and
+puccini that will soon no longer have packages on it.
+
+Status (2009-05-02):
+
+We probably still eventually want to move to a more cenralized setup for all
+the low-traffic leaf-sites, but momentum on the Big Mail Setup Change seems
+to have pretty much died.  Since Stephen put quite a lot of work into making
+our exim setup more readable, maintainable and we are using the same config now
+everywhere, at least some of the reasons for this proposal are no longer valid.
+It still might make sense to eventually move @debian.org mail from master to a new
+system but we don't need 4 dedicated hosts for that, probably.  (weasel)
+